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Section 6: ECC/ARC/CPI Subject: More DR Nonsense? Msg# 1226002
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Joe,
Josh from CPI has me thinking the four feet of gravel alongside of the existing paver driveway requires a survey. Dino [Past CPI manager], would label that as landscaping. I paid the HOA $385 by check last month but it hasn't cleared yet. Maybe they are rethinking their allegations and talking with ARC for clarification. This is in the category of telling a person with a garage they need a screen for their trash cans... I clearly think the exceptions, or do not comply with this DR has them all confused. For example, a fence that is on the driveway at "the ditch" doesn't count it's a barrier. A privacy fence that is 8' tall and 24' long requires a permit, maybe both county and OPA. A 4' tall accent fence/screen off a deck in the back yard requires an Architectual fence HOA permit unless it's on the deck itself then it needs both a county permit and OPA permit, even though it looks like a screen. A fence that goes around a propane tank or trash can, to hide it's existence, is a screen and not a fence. A perimeter yard fence that is at least 5 feet in from the property line can go through the county without issue but you need a variance if you want to get close [2 feet] to your neighbor's yard and that requires both county and OPA permits and likely survey before the house is sold. BTW, no metal fences unless it goes around an inground pool and then it can also be taller than 48 inches. All this needs to be in writing because when you go to sell your place the rules, DRs, ARC guidelines may have changed and CPI has no record of the changes, they just have the current interpretation which may just be an opinion from Josh of Linda. I thought the "rules" from Dino were in effect, well I thunk I was wrong. More to follow. |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: An association member attended the Board of Directors meeting today and gave public comments about his experience in attempting to install a small section of fence. Right up front it must be said that no fences are allowed by the Declarations of Restrictions without an exception. However, hundreds of exceptions have been granted over the years. I will try to get more details but based on the lot owner's public comments, he seems to have a valid complaint. He said he was installing the fence himself at a cost of around $1200. His complaint is that CPI is also demanding a lot survey that will cost him around $2400. He left, saying he would not try to improve his property. Of the many hundreds of previously granted exceptions, one can only wonder how many were required to have a survey done by a registered engineer. Would installing some screening fence around trash cans require a $2400 survey? On the surface, this sounds ridiculous. Here is the Guideline: Section 200.5 Fencing If sufficient detail is not shown on the survey/site plan submitted, permit approval could include submission of a current survey, performed by a licensed surveyor, that shows the existing As-Built conditions and measurements of a property, such as boundaries, easements, encroachments, monuments, paving hardscaping, and lot coverage calculations... |
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